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  • Arci
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    #40193

    HI

    Since a few time, i search in the www for a site, where i can read the history of beatboxing.

    Caus im a real fun of that shit :)

    i found this site and thise board and now i hope that someone can help me and give me a link to a good site, where i can read the history.
    I need to know, when that shit began :)

    i thx you all a lot and i hope youll help me

    So Cya guys

    Talisman
    Member
    #156072

    i’m sure this has been mentioned in another thread before i just can’t remember which! I will try and dig it out and post the link to it on here for you :)

    white noise
    Member
    #156065

    for starters, check an article i wrote:

    http://www.irishhiphop.f2s.com/articles/beatbox.htm

    by no means complete, (i barely agree with any of the views i express in it anymore,) but it’s a bit of quick history. it’s a bit insulting to kela, and bigging up rahzel, but at the time i wrote it i hadn’t heard anything that impressive from kela. now, of course, i know better…

    …and if you have any specific questions, i’ll try answer them.

    A-Plus
    Participant
    #156062

    Why don’t we get together collectively as a community, do a lot of research and create a definitive history of beatboxing?

    We could all submit little bits of info or if you are very knowledgable about particular beatboxers or eras then write about those.

    One point is keeping a ‘history of beatboxing’ objective, it could easily be done from one point of view: ie. beatboxing only in hip hop, or just about one beatboxer who started it all. Who wants to cover VP in a-cappella?

    I’m into the idea of exploring the ‘ancient history’ of vocal percussion, does anybody know about tribes who used it in Africa etc?

    Anyone got old beatbox record collections with sleeves they can scan in? Who’s got any rare photos of images of beatboxers?

    C’mon people let’s do this! :)

    Arci
    Participant
    #156074

    well i need a long story, cause i have a presentation in shool about that :) and i have found enought about other shit :) but no where i find a real good thing about history :(

    Arci
    Participant
    #156075

    white noise you text is good, but to short.
    you dont know a longer text?
    cause i really need one :(

    so that a lot :)

    each
    Participant
    #156070

    Damn, speak of the devil A-plus. I’ve been on this project for the past few weeks. From what I’ve learned so far, beatboxing and music similar to it originated in African culture. Which America then adopted, creating Barber shop quartets, A-capella groups, etc. There is SO much music which vocalization/vocal instrumentaion is incorporated in, but it’s just not popular and we don’t know a whole lot about it.

    I’m in the early process of this, but I’m creating a documentary covering vocal percussion and a-capella groups’ side of the story as well as beatboxing. Beatboxing of course would be included, but it just seems that so many people recognize it as ‘hip-hop’ which it’s not. It seems that when you mention a-capella to a hip-hop/beatbox fan, they’ll usually so that it is too soft or not hip-hop enough. You talk to an a-capella head, you may get the same response about beatboxing. I basically want to cover how they’ve both evovled themselves into unique artforms, clear up all the mixed confusion of, “what’s the difference between beatboxing, a-capella, vocal percusion,etc, etc…”, and where they see it going in the future, etc.

    So I want to show that these two are very much alike as they are different at the same time. I’m aware of the film breath control, and from what I’ve heard and read about, it seemed to primarily cover beatboxing’s history. I’m going to start off covering footage/interveiws here in the West Coast and the Vowel Movement especially because it’s bringing many different styles and genres of vocal music together. I’ll then work from there. I kid you not, but I’ve talked to vocal percussionists who had been doing it for years and said that they were relatively new to the whole beatboxing thing. Amazing.

    I’m curious as to who inspired the pioneers of ‘our’ inspiration? Who inspired Bobby McFerrin, Al Jarreau, Michael Winslow etc. We may not know now, but we will.

    Talisman
    Member
    #156073

    i’m with a-plus:)

    wrecktify
    Member
    #156067

    beatbox in the 60s -
    mungo jerry – in the summertime

    A-Plus
    Participant
    #156063

    each that sounds awesome. I’m with you in the sense that my concept of beatbox is non-genre specific, I literally was beatboxing before I ever got into any style of music. And yes, Breath Control was all about beatboxing from the hip hop perspective, in particular beatboxing in the US.

    Was very cool still, firmly stood by Buffy as the ‘first’ beatboxer which of course is an irrelevant argument really when you consider ‘beatboxing’ in whatever form has been going on probably for as long as humans have been able to speak.

    each would you be interested in contributing to this big history of beatboxing project? I envisage it as a big text on this site split into chapters, perhaps like a timeline accompanied by audio, photos and video. Video clips from your documentary could be used, with credit and also further details about your whole film. What you saying?

    each
    Participant
    #156071

    Yes, definetly. I appreciate very much the fact that you’re offering that. I will email you with more details etc when I get home tonight from work.

    Arci
    Participant
    #156076

    sorry for my bad english but im from switzerland :P

    so no one can or want to help me :(

    thats hard.

    pls if you know an informative page, give me the link i need it realy :) thx a lot

    and a few greetings from switzerland :)

    #156064

    don’t forget the australian aboriginals, native americans, and the cavemen!

    Dope project! will do some google later :)

    and have you heard the new blazin squad track? i was like SHIT!!!! that’s dope! then i found out it was blazin squad. oh dear. i’m getting old.

    LetRap
    Member
    #156068

    here’s an article a friend of mine wrote. Im not sure how accurate it is.

    Human beatbox i.e. making beats with a human mouth (also known as Vocal Percussion, Multivocalism, Beatboxing) was born about in the beginning of 1980-s and as it`s predecessors are considered such men as Al Jarreau and in the jazz-world very well-known Mr. Bobby McFerrin. They didn`t create beats yet, but imitated very truthfully several instruments, such as horns, trompets, violins,a guitar, harmonica. Although they didn`t create actual beats yet, they tryed to create rythms with certain voice combinations. I think it`s impossible to determine, who actually started beatboxing. Different sources give out different facts. It`s only sure, that in 1983 a guy called Buffy (from the Fat Boys` , by citizen`s name Darren Robinson) won a talent contest at Radio City Music Hall and much thanks to his talent to create Hiphop rhythms and make sound effects. Talks spread and it didn`t take much time, before some others started beatboxing. Some are of the opinion, that only after Buffy came Biz Markie as well as Doug E. Fresh a.k.a. “Human Beatbox”-the partner of legendary Slick Rick (still not proved facts.) Also a man named Michael Winslow is definitely worth mentioning. You all probably know him from a very succesful movie The Police Academy, where he amazed us with his ability to imitate various sounds and also with his ability to create music using only his mouth. Considering his skills and superior quality of his sound effects, i can probably assume, that he has also been dealing with vocal percussion for quite a long time. Again the question arises, whether Buffy was the first one afterall…

    Beatboxing probably started from a reason, that bothers us all- the lack of money, i. e. MC-s didn`t have enough money to buy all the necessary equipment like samplers, beat machines and so on, but it was still very important, to hear the rhytm. So, people with a little bit more brightness, creativity and the will of self expression, started creating rhytms using their body and especially their mouth for it.

    In the meantime the Beatboxing died almost entirely out, i.e. , there wasn´t anybody else to deal with it at a considerable level, until there suddenly appeared a person named Rahzel M. Brown a. k. a. “The Godfather of Noize”, who belongs to the legendary Roots crew. In the year 1999 Rahzel gave out his debut solo album “Make the Music 2000: The Fifth Element” lifting Beatboxing to a totally new level. He didn`t create simply rhytms anymore, but music: scratching, basslines and the beat at the same time… He also imitated wind instruments, fiddles, a guitar, synthesizer and created sound effects. This man can create different sounds at the same time and is definitely one of the best beatboxers in the world (The Beatbox Champion, like he says himself).

    I believe, that by today we can say, that Human Beatbox is just as valuable, as the other 4 elements of HipHop. Especially for the beginner MC-s, who don`t have equipment for practicing. Some people consider Beatboxing as the fifth element of HipHop, but of course, not quite officially.

    Actually, there are many beatboxers in the world, who are very skilled. Unfortunately, most of them are totally underground and there`s so little information availiable about them. Some quite good and more famous beatboxers are for example Kenny Muhammed the Human Orchestra, Click Tha Supah Latin, Killa Kela, then the Saian Supa Crew from France and definitely some yet unknown talents. It is definitely worth mentioning the “Human Turntable” Scratch, who is very skilled in imitating scratching sounds and claims to be able to imitate all the sounds created by a turntable.

    white noise
    Member
    #156066

    did your friend read my article before he wrote it?! lol. sorry, just a few similarities.


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