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Are beatboxers unoriginal?

The Boring Generation: Are Beatboxers Becoming Unoriginal?

Are we losing originality in beatboxing as more beatboxers enter the front stage? Let’s explore.

This is a question that we’ve been asked and have seen several times within the community and a topic that I’m super excited to break down.

Posing the Question

Villain and Timmeh came out and voiced their opinions about modern day beatboxers. I’m super happy they did, because we’re now moving onto the next stage of beatbox: voicing our opinions and asking the difficult questions that are challenging our community today.

Here’s what they said:

Villain's question on we talk beatbox

Timmeh's Beatbox Facebook Comment

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Are beatboxers becoming unoriginal? Is there too much biting going on? Are we just uninspired? Is there any validity to the “our generation is better” argument?

The paradox of what we want

Well, let's start by going back in time for some wisdom.

Arnold Schoenberg was a composer who, among many contributions to art and music, spoke about originality. Schoenberg believed that there are two forces which dictate our love for music: “the demand for repetition of pleasant stimuli, and the opposing desire for variety, for change, for a new stimulus.”

The inner struggle between wanting repetition and the forward movement of innovation challenges our community today. We ultimately have to acknowledge that although we want to hear more new sounds, rhythms, and styles, we are also naturally inclined to crave  the repetition of styles and sounds that we enjoy.

Lip rolls and inward bass are versatile sounds

It’s unfair to boil down “unoriginal” styles to these two sounds. It’s important to realize that lip rolls and inward bass, like any other sounds, can be manipulated, combined, and crafted in many ways. They are very versatile sounds that have many purposes and iterations.

B-Art at La Cup

Caleb Titus, the Co-founder of North America Beatbox says, “doing those sounds isn’t being unoriginal, it’s HOW those sounds are used.”
The criticism should not be on the sounds themselves, but on the blatant replication of the sounds in the same structures, songs, and patterns.

The hindsight bias

Madox Comment

Madox makes a great point. The throat bass and click rolls faced the same kind of criticism as lip rolls and inward bass today.

Whether it’s a shaky shoutout video spammed in all the beatbox Facebook groups or even high quality studio sessions on Youtube, we’re consuming so much more beatbox-related content than ever before.

It’s easy to get distracted and even tired of all the similar routines, but it’s the nature of the digital age where virtually everyone has the power to upload a video routine.

There have been, and always will be, plenty of copycats and unoriginal routines.  The only difference is their accessibility. We look back at the past with rose-tinted glasses only to remember the best of the best - where all the copycats and “unoriginals” were left in the dust to be forgotten.

This will not change. Five years down the road, we’ll be remembering the NaPoMs, Genes, Alems, Babelis -- not a cheap copycat.

Battling culture is dangerous

On the flip side, we have to rethink battling culture.

BlackRhythm says, “you can understand why a young beatboxer would not be willing to step out of the fad into his own space of uniqueness for fear of being rejected or under appreciated.”
It’s true. One’s standard for improving should not be based on the ability of others, but on pushing oneself as much as possible. Being the best that YOU can be - a philosophy much easier said than practiced.

I could ramble on about this -- perhaps a topic for another article.

The science behind uniformity in music

"This mimicry phenomena is most likely a direct result of the “that person won a battle with that style so I’m going to do that style too” mentality." - CTB

There is a lot of copying; there’s no denying that. It’s human nature. In a scientific study of the pop music industry, researchers from the Medical University of Vienna found a strong correlation between record sales and uniformity in musical styles.

As an artist sells more songs, more people come seeking that style of music, wanting a replication of the good feelings they enjoyed when they first heard the artist's style - leading the artist to maintain that style. 


The journey to developing that particular popular style may be long and arduous; it’s so much easier for someone else to swoop in, find that formula for that artist’s success, and copy it and be acknowledged for sounding good. 

In addition, beatbox is growing larger and larger, which means that there is a collectively lower investment in understanding the art form. Fully understanding and internalizing the intricacies of beatboxing takes patience and commitment.

I think beatboxers are just impatient. They don't want to learn basics they want to learn what the pros or the most popular beatboxer does and use that as their foundation of style. They want to be amazing beatboxers FAST they don't want to practice routines or explore new technique. - Crackbone

Our expectations for youngsters are too high

We forget that beatboxing is a very young art form and the new guys have only been beatboxing for a short period of time. Beatboxing has grown immensely in the past two decades and not all of us have been riding that journey as beatboxing began to really flourish.

Blatant ripping and stealing is wrong. However, we’ve also witnessed some unfair criticism of new beatboxers for their lack of style. We shouldn’t place an expectation to new beatboxers to understand what their style is, what our culture means, and what it means to be “unique.”

Developing a personal style also comes from a firm understanding of who you are as both an artist and a human being. This takes time.

Double standard of newcomers

We all had to start somewhere. Most of the biggest names in our community started off by imitating the Godfather of Noize, Kenny Muhammad, or even the infamous Poolpo. Is it that much different when aspiring beatboxers are imitating NaPoM and Alem? 

When one’s knowledge and understanding of the art is limited only to watching Youtube videos of battles, then it becomes a competition of who can do a sound or routine better, rather than who can better express their personal strengths and style.

Moving Forward

People have been complaining about the culture of the newest generation ever since people started living long enough to meet their grandkids.  No culture is safe from this phenomenon, and that’s ok.  We all just need perspective and awareness of our inherent biases.  

Don’t be afraid of change, but embrace it.  The cream floats to the top eventually, and with all the avenues of exposure in this digital age, we have more sources of cream than ever before.  

The best thing for the community is to move discussion away from criticism and towards encouragement of exploration.  If you haven’t already, join the conversation, and keep an open mind.


A HUGE shoutout to Tony Alexandris for revising this article and thank you CTB, BlackRhythm, Crackbone, and Madox for their contributions as well.


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  1. beatzotto 6 September, 2016 at 20:48

    Nice post Jon, and good reflections.
    As with many things human, originality has to be taught. Art has to be taught. Expression is directed and what is most valued and rewarded is mostly practiced, makes sense, right? It’s much more difficult being original with new sounds than just copying.
    First you have to master the sound and techniques, then, the next step is to improve upon the technique and use it to express yourself.
    Trouble is, thinking outside the box is tiresome. Being a pioneer, an innovator takes a lot of work and is not a simple one-two method of creating. It takes much more effort to create an artwork worthy of praise than to copy what the other guy did. And it is rewarded differently. Battling may not appeal to one who experiments and goes way outside the expected techniques of the scene.
    They are very different creation processes too: creating a piece for a beatboxer who is into the latest technique and values it highly, for a musician or for the laymen.
    It matters a lot what you are really doing. Beatboxing at home, while gaming, for friends, doing gigs with musicians, making videos, making collabs, battling online, battling face-to-face.

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